Daniel Reetz, the founder of the DIY Book Scanner community, has recently started making videos of prototyping and shop tips. If you are tinkering with a book scanner (or any other project) in your home shop, these tips will come in handy. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn0gq8 ... g_8K1nfInQ

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Neelam
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Wanted: Freelancer to scan books

Post by Neelam » 12 Mar 2018, 06:53

Looking for a United States resident, preferably living in California, who is willing to inter loan some books from the local library and scan them. Approx: 2000 pages in total.
Please send me a pm for the details, if interested. I will ask a sample page made with your scanner as reference.
The offer is valid if not removed.

BillGill
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Re: Wanted: Freelancer to scan books

Post by BillGill » 13 Mar 2018, 09:16

If you are looking at scanning library books are you making sure that you aren't violating copyright law by scanning the books?

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Re: Wanted: Freelancer to scan books

Post by Neelam » 14 Mar 2018, 04:29

Good question, because I don't know the USA law. All I know, that there are lot of book scanning services in the States and it's legal here in many cases. However, let me say this.: I don't save much money on having someone to scan the books because the American labour is very expensive. Many books are rare on the list, and almost impossible to buy them even in the USA. Now add the fact, that most sellers won't ship to foreign. I still don't know why. I also considered international library loan, but it costs over 30 $/book.
So hiring someone who needs some extra money is the best solution because the book scanning services are more expensive and I'd still need help anyway.

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Re: Wanted: Freelancer to scan books

Post by BillGill » 14 Mar 2018, 09:26

Copyright in the United States runs for 70 years after the death of the author. Anything published before 1923 is out of copyright. I suspect that it can be more complicated in some cases, but that is the basic.

I can understand why digitizing books would be expensive. Scanning the books and converting them to text is relatively quick. Then in order to get them to read correctly it takes a significant effort to edit them and make all the corrections that are introduced by the OCR software. I can do the scan and conversion in a couple of hours on a 200 to 300 page book. After that I takes many hours of editing. Personally I would not do it for less than about $10 US per page, minimum of 100 pages. And if I tried it I suspect that if anything the price would go up.

I personally have been digitizing some books from my personal library, for my personal use. The books I am digitizing are ones that I cannot find in digital format. If I digitize one and then it becomes available I will buy it. In fact this happened once. They are also books that I want to read. There have been a couple of books that I started to digitize and got into them and found I could not manage to read them enough times to finish the editing, so they went onto the back log. If I was doing it for somebody else I would wind up having to do it anyway and that would mean reading a book that I didn't like multiple times to get all the editing done.

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Re: Wanted: Freelancer to scan books

Post by Neelam » 14 Mar 2018, 13:02

Well, I just need the scanned images. No OCR or editing is required. So 2000 pages with lets say, even if someone scans only 400 pages per hour than it takes 5 hours to finish. Plus the time spent in the library and uploading the images.

I don't really want to argue with you but if is that as you say, than Google, archive.org and etc. are constantly violating the law in large scale.

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Re: Wanted: Freelancer to scan books

Post by BillGill » 14 Mar 2018, 14:35

Google has been taken to court about that. They won. The idea is, I believe, that they are archiving the books, not selling them. I am not completely sure about the technicalities involved. Anyway, as I understand it, if somebody digitizes a book for distribution then that would be a copyright infringement.

There is, or was, at least one company that would digitize a book for you. They required you to provide the book, and when they had finished digitizing it they destroyed the original. Apparently they thought that this was sufficient to avoid copyright infringement.

Another approach is that you can make one copy for your own use as an archive. This follows a precedent set for video tapes. The courts determined that if somebody bought a tape they could make a copy for archival purposes. I'm not sure whether this has been through the court system, so I don't know if it will actually hold.

In my case I am not distributing the books I digitize. I am using them for my own purpose. If somebody finds out that I have digitized a book to which they own the copyright I will happily pay them for the privilege. In fact if I knew who owns the copyright to a book that I have digitized I would be happy to share the digital book with them so that they could sell it to others.

Please remember that I am not a copyright lawyer. I am basing my ideas on things I have picked up here and there. They may or may not be accurate. The main thing to remember is that copyright law is tricky. I personally would not be comfortable digitizing books that were checked out of the library, unless they were published before 1923. Here in the US that is sufficient. In other countries copyright law varies a lot and it may be that none of what I have said applies outside the USA.

Bill

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